Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99
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Also deals on some of the black and white Kindles.
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Wonder what version of Fire OS they’re shipping with. If it’s 5.3.1.1 or lower, I’d be tempted to grab one.
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@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
Wonder what version of Fire OS they’re shipping with. If it’s 5.3.1.1 or lower, I’d be tempted to grab one.
Why, is it rootable?
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Tempted to grab this just for watching Netflix/Amazon movies on airplanes.
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@dangeruss said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
Wonder what version of Fire OS they’re shipping with. If it’s 5.3.1.1 or lower, I’d be tempted to grab one.
Why, is it rootable?
It surely is! I scored a couple of “used” HD 8s a few weeks ago from Warehouse Deals, and to my surprise they both came through with 5.3.1. I rooted both with Kingoroot, installed Super SU, and have pretty much a plain vanilla Android experience on a decent tablet at a dirt cheap price.
In fact, prior to 5.3.2.1, you can install Flashfire and change your OS if you like…there are folks running Nougat on Fire tablets.
5.3.2 isn’t rootable, but it can be downgraded to a version that is. As of 5.3.2.1 though, the party’s over. It’s not rootable…it may never be…and the bootloader’s locked.
The HD10 would be a nice upgrade for me, but only if I can root it.
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@ctcarl personally, I’m fairly happy with the stock experience and since you can sideload apps, including Google play, I see no reason to root it.
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I’ve sideloaded Google Play services using a package at https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/fireos-5-6-0-0-hd-82017-t3705400 (4th post down) without root. Now I have Microsoft Office and YouTube for real.
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I forget which version of Fire OS it came with… I do remember it was 5.3.X.X… but I did update to 5.6.0.0
Sorry, I should have written it down!
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@dangeruss said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@ctcarl personally, I’m fairly happy with the stock experience and since you can sideload apps, including Google play, I see no reason to root it.
I get that, Russ. I have two gen 5 Fire 7s that are unrootable, but usuable. Now that there is a decent no-root firewall, I’m reasonably happy with them at present.
But I try to keep in mind that Fire OS is a unique product, and Amazon’s grip on it gets tighter and tighter. For example, you’re happy with it because it can sideload apps and support Google Play, but that could change tomorrow.
Fire OS updates without your permission, automatically and silently, and there is absolutely nothing to stop Amazon from removing features (such as the ability to install or run non-amazon apps) in an upgrade. There are only two surefire ways to stop automatic upgrades; don’t connect to the internet, or root your device.
If the spectre of consequences from an unwanted upgrade isn’t enough, I want root to combat what I call “permission bloat”. Too many apps ask for unnecessary rights…to your address book, camera, microphone, and location, to name a few…and I like being able to say, “I don’t think so”. And of course, there are plenty of apps that either require root, or offer limited functionality without it.
Besides, I’m a techie and I appreciate being able to open the hood and watch the belts and pulleys spin.
I know that many, if not most Fire users are happy without root (right now, anyway), but if you want to see how lost some folks are without it, just Google “root fire 5.3.3 (or 5.4.0)” and brace yourself for much wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments.
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@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
If the spectre of consequences from an unwanted upgrade isn’t enough, I want root to combat what I call “permission bloat”. Too many apps ask for unnecessary rights…to your address book, camera, microphone, and location, to name a few…and I like being able to say, “I don’t think so”. And of course, there are plenty of apps that either require root, or offer limited functionality without it.
Except now you’ve put KingRoot on there, so it’s very likely that all your info is being sent to China.
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Reviews ares saying the OS is Bellini 5.5 and that it may get the Amazon version of the Android Nougat 7.1 update before the end of the year.
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@dangeruss said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
If the spectre of consequences from an unwanted upgrade isn’t enough, I want root to combat what I call “permission bloat”. Too many apps ask for unnecessary rights…to your address book, camera, microphone, and location, to name a few…and I like being able to say, “I don’t think so”. And of course, there are plenty of apps that either require root, or offer limited functionality without it.
Except now you’ve put KingRoot on there, so it’s very likely that all your info is being sent to China.
No chance of that! I immediately replaced Kingoroot with SuperSU, and the tablets were in airplane mode for the five minutes or so it was installed.
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Thanks for the post. Picked up one and may grab a couple more as gifts!
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@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@dangeruss said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
If the spectre of consequences from an unwanted upgrade isn’t enough, I want root to combat what I call “permission bloat”. Too many apps ask for unnecessary rights…to your address book, camera, microphone, and location, to name a few…and I like being able to say, “I don’t think so”. And of course, there are plenty of apps that either require root, or offer limited functionality without it.
Except now you’ve put KingRoot on there, so it’s very likely that all your info is being sent to China.
No chance of that! I immediately replaced Kingoroot with SuperSU, and the tablets were in airplane mode for the five minutes or so it was installed.
Well I remember I had to run some app that removes KingRoot, but in any case, since KingRoot rooted the phone, you never know if it put in some rootkit to keep it from detection. So even if you swap it out with SuperSU, it’s possible that the rootkit is still there.
The only things I may want root for would be backups with titanium and the ability to write to the SD card (I currently cannot figure out a way to do that)
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@dangeruss said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@dangeruss said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
If the spectre of consequences from an unwanted upgrade isn’t enough, I want root to combat what I call “permission bloat”. Too many apps ask for unnecessary rights…to your address book, camera, microphone, and location, to name a few…and I like being able to say, “I don’t think so”. And of course, there are plenty of apps that either require root, or offer limited functionality without it.
Except now you’ve put KingRoot on there, so it’s very likely that all your info is being sent to China.
No chance of that! I immediately replaced Kingoroot with SuperSU, and the tablets were in airplane mode for the five minutes or so it was installed.
Well I remember I had to run some app that removes KingRoot, but in any case, since KingRoot rooted the phone, you never know if it put in some rootkit to keep it from detection. So even if you swap it out with SuperSU, it’s possible that the rootkit is still there.
The only things I may want root for would be backups with titanium and the ability to write to the SD card (I currently cannot figure out a way to do that)
For what it’s worth, I used FingerPower Technology’s Kingoroot and not King Studio’s Kingroot.
I don’t think that there’s any trace of Kingoroot left behind. Even if I’m wrong and there is, it can’t “phone home”. It can only flail around in a vacuum, so to speak, because I’m running an IPtables-based firewall.
If I were worried about a rootkit, I would flash a new ROM. A lot of folks like to do that anyway, for a clean, vanilla-Android experience.
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@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
Even if I’m wrong and there is, it can’t “phone home”. It can only flail around in a vacuum, so to speak, because I’m running an IPtables-based firewall.
If you’re running that on the tablet, there’s nothing preventing the rootkit from going around iptables.
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@dangeruss said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
@ctcarl said in Amazon Fire HD10 now at BF price - $99:
Even if I’m wrong and there is, it can’t “phone home”. It can only flail around in a vacuum, so to speak, because I’m running an IPtables-based firewall.
If you’re running that on the tablet, there’s nothing preventing the rootkit from going around iptables.
[shrugs] I guess rooting’s not for everyone.
