@zerenia said in The PCs on my network can no longer see each other:
@phat200 What happens if you turn off the firewall on both pc’s? Can they see each other then?
– Z –
I did tried turning off the Windows Defender’s Firewall. Didn’t solve the problem.
@dangeruss said in The PCs on my network can no longer see each other:
@phat200 said in The PCs on my network can no longer see each other:
Win7 IP Configuration
Found you problem right there. You sure you still want to be running Win 7?
How do I see what problem you are referring to (in the IP config)?
TIA
Update: I found that PIA has it own uninstall. After I uninstall PIA on PC1, my internet is still working. But the problem that the PCs not showing up on the network map and therefore cannot connect with each other still remains.
I have a network of two PCs – a Win7 Pro (“PC1”) and a Win10 Pro (PC2). Both are 64 bit. Both has VPN from Private Internet Access (“PIA”) and I use their app to launch the vpn. The internet on both PCs is wired.
They were working fine until Last Friday. Then I found out that my PC1 cannot connect to the internet at all when the VPN is on (PC2 does not have this problem). PIA has a Killswitch to prevent leaks. It was set to Auto and I turn it off. Did not solve the problem. So I close the VPN; still can get to the internet . So I uninstall the VPN; still can’t get on the internet. Then I reinstall the VPN, Now I can get on the internet. It seem that I must NOW have the VPN running in order to get on the internet. PC2 have no such problem.
Then I discover that the two PCs can no longer see each other on its network. The only device that is listed in the Network is itself. And the printer is not working either on PC1. (The printer is not shared. They are installed on both PCs as local that points to the same Port.) The network for both PCs are set to Work network with the same workgroup name (not the default name).
So far I have tried the following on both PCs:
Network Discovery is ON
File and Print Sharing is ON
Sharing (some drives on both PCs) with everyone is ON
Windows Defender Firewall settings is checked
Turn off IPv6 as some suggested).
In case it helps, my IP config for PC1 is as follows (I snipped most of the addresses):
Win7 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : [ComputerName]
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Unknown adapter Local Area Connection 3:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Private Internet Access Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-AB-[snipped]
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80[snipped] (Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.18.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, November 28, 2021 10:09:53 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, November 28, 2022 10:09:52 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.18.254
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : [snipped]
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01 [snipped]
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.243
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : TAP-Windows Adapter V9
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FF-97-CE-34-34
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: [Wired]
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : B4-[snipped]
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80 [snipped] (Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.[snipped] (Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, November 28, 2021 3:12:50 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, November 29, 2021 3:12:44 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.[snipped]
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.[snipped]
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : [snipped]
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-[snipped]
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : [snipped]
[snipped]
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Teredo Tunneling Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : [snipped]
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter isatap.{2E3A[snipped]}:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-[snipped]
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Tunnel adapter isatap.{53D[snipped]}:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
The problem is not solved. I suspect the problem is the PIA’s VPN app. Any suggestions to solve the problem? Since I am planning on migrating to another VPN provider, I am open to getting rid of PIA’s app all together. But as I mentioned at the beginning: After I uninstalled PIA’s app, my internet on PC1 is disabled. PIA’s tech support is on their support portal ONLY (not even email) and their response time is slooow. I opened a ticket 24 hours ago, and I haven’t yet heard from them.
TIA
@jtownsucks46 said in New problem with my Win7 Pro PC:
It should work on Win 7. Here’s some more info that may be helpful:
I restart my PC and Go to Action Centre > Trouble Shooting > Performance. En error message said that a system problem
had prevented this process to proceed.
When I did "Action Centre > Trouble Shooting > ", there is no “Performance” option on the list. May be because I have none??
I also did a chkdsk /r /f with zero error.
Thank you for your help.
So far, the problem has not recurred. So I will stop figuring out the problem – until it happens again.
@jtownsucks46 said in New problem with my Win7 Pro PC:
Once Windows loads, try the following:
-Click Start, type CMD and run it as administrator
-Copy and paste the command below and hit enter.Sfc /scannow
Wait until the pc finishes scanning and repairing any corrupted system files then proceed with the next command
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
Once done restart your pc
I tried it and get Error: 87. I did a dism /h and RestoreHealth is not an option of DISM. I google the error 87 in Win7 and this article (https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/error-87-running-dism-online-cleanup-image/33be783f-6e3f-408b-9d0c-901cd19c14ea) seems to say RestoreHealth doesn’t work in Win7. [I have Win7Pro sp1.]
Following is my session in CMD:
//////// begin ////////////
C:\Windows\system32>DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 6.1.7600.16385
Image Version: 6.1.7601.18489
Error: 87
The restorehealth option is not recognized in this context.
For more information, refer to the help.
The DISM log file can be found at C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
C:\Windows\system32>dism /h
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 6.1.7600.16385
DISM.exe [dism_options] {WIM_command} [<WIM_arguments>]
DISM.exe {/Image:<path_to_offline_image> | /Online} [dism_options]
{servicing_command} [<servicing_arguments>]
DESCRIPTION:
DISM enumerates, installs, uninstalls, configures, and updates features
and packages in Windows images. The commands that are available depend
on the image being serviced and whether the image is offline or running.
WIM COMMANDS:
/Get-MountedWimInfo - Displays information about mounted WIM images.
/Get-WimInfo - Displays information about images in a WIM file.
/Commit-Wim - Saves changes to a mounted WIM image.
/Unmount-Wim - Unmounts a mounted WIM image.
/Mount-Wim - Mounts an image from a WIM file.
/Remount-Wim - Recovers an orphaned WIM mount directory.
/Cleanup-Wim - Deletes resources associated with mounted WIM
images that are corrupt.
IMAGE SPECIFICATIONS:
/Online - Targets the running operating system.
/Image - Specifies the path to the root directory of an
offline Windows image.
DISM OPTIONS:
/English - Displays command line output in English.
/Format - Specifies the report output format.
/WinDir - Specifies the path to the Windows directory.
/SysDriveDir - Specifies the path to the system-loader file named
BootMgr.
/LogPath - Specifies the logfile path.
/LogLevel - Specifies the output level shown in the log (1-4).
/NoRestart - Suppresses automatic reboots and reboot prompts.
/Quiet - Suppresses all output except for error messages.
/ScratchDir - Specifies the path to a scratch directory.
For more information about these DISM options and their arguments, specify an
option immediately before /?.
Examples:
DISM.exe /Mount-Wim /?
DISM.exe /ScratchDir /?
DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /?
DISM.exe /Online /?
C:\Windows\system32>dism /restorehealth /h
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 6.1.7600.16385
No help topic could be found for the restorehealth option.
Specify an image to see relevant help topics, using either the /Image or
/Online command-line option:
/Image:<path_to_offline_image>
This is the path to the root directory of the offline Windows image.
Example:
DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /?
/Online
Specifies that the operation is to be performed against the running Windows
installation.
Example:
DISM.exe /Online /?
C:\Windows\system32>
////////////////// end ////////////////
@zerenia
So far so good. Thanks, Z. I’ll resist meddling with my PC.
Do you know of any other forums that have people knowledgeable about virtual machines in the Windows environment?
Thanks again.
@zerenia said in New problem with my Win7 Pro PC:
@phat200 said in New problem with my Win7 Pro PC:
@zerenia said in New problem with my Win7 Pro PC:
@phat200 Cold start the pc and as soon as you power on, hold down the F8 key and don’t let go until a text-based menu starts up. Select “Safe Mode” by using keyboard arrow keys and press the Enter key on your keyboard. If the pc come up relatively quickly then you have something in the startup that is holding up the process.
If the pc still slow loads then you might be having a hardware issue that needs to be addressed.
Report back the Safe Mode-boot up results, please.
—. Z. —
Last night, I “shut down” the PC, wait a few minutes and then power on the PC. I have a bootup password (PW) and a windows PW. I repetitively press the F8 key as soon as I press the power button on the PC, the bootup PWscreen came on; entered the PW. Then again repetitively press F8 key. But it got right into Windows – with no stalling – and I never get the menu screen to select “Safe Mode”.
So I “Shut down” Windows again for the night.
This morning, I power on the PC and repete the above process with one exception – I Press and hold F8 key: First as soon as I press the power button on the PC; then again as soon as I press Enter key after I input the bootup PW. Again, it went straight into Windows – without stalling.
Is the F8 key for the Boot Menu or Startup Menu? If yes, then I have a Post-It note on my PC that they would be f( or Esc key. I’ll try them when I “Shut Down” Windows tonight.
But that doesn’t explain why the PC is booting up normally now? Only time will tell whether “stalling” will recur.
P.S. Just to be sure, by “cold start the PC”, do you mean pressing the Power button to turn on the PC?
Thanks in advance
I’m operating under the premise that you have a wired and not a wireless keyboard, but even then F8 ought to work. Not sure why you’re getting a boot menu - I was expecting a startup menu with multiple startup options like Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, etc. Cold start = power off and power on. We use the term “power cycle the machine” but didn’t want to confuse you even more.
If it’s starting OK now, leave it alone. If it starts to stall on startup again, try “Diagnostic Startup” in MSCONFIG. Here’s a link to how to use it:
Diagnostic startup will disable all programs and non-essential services from starting up when you boot up and get to a Win 7 desktop. Something in startup not completing successfully is the typical cause of a boot hangup. If the diagnostic startup works, then go back to normal startup and then on the Startup tab of MSCONFIG you can uncheck all the startup items and put them back one at a time until the system hangs again.
This is all assuming that you can get past the hanging the next time it happens…
It may be time for a new OS or new computer. Is all this trouble worth your time?
– Z –
The keyboard and mouse are wired.
I have no stalling this morning. [And in booting up, I pressed the Esc key to get to my Startup Menu.]
For some reason on my PC it is the “Esc” key is for the Startup Menu. And my startup menu doesn’t have the option to Start Windows in Safe mode. The closest that I see is F2 for Diagnostic; F12 for Network Service Boot; F11 for Recovery. Maybe “Start Windows in Safe Mode” is under Diagnostic Or Recovery? I know I have seen that option before – I think it is after my PC get a Blue Screen and I have to turn off the PC by holding down the Power button; and power back on.
I do have a Win10 PC; but I haven’t really migrated to it because of my 32-bit legacy software I use often. And it takes much more time to achieve the same level of proficiency in a new software. (And I don’t need that software for work.)
@atikovi
I called them and was informed that the promo rate is for their MM account and the 1.25% rate is for up to $250K. Over that, the rate is 0.1%. The regular savings rate is 0.4%. And the CS doesn’t know how long the 1.25% will last – that is for people who get in on the promo rate.
It is interesting that I can’t find any of their interest rates on their web site.
Also, their electronic transfer out of the account is limited to $50K/month and can be approved on a case by case basis for an add’l $50K for a total of $100K/mo.
@zerenia said in New problem with my Win7 Pro PC:
@phat200 Cold start the pc and as soon as you power on, hold down the F8 key and don’t let go until a text-based menu starts up. Select “Safe Mode” by using keyboard arrow keys and press the Enter key on your keyboard. If the pc come up relatively quickly then you have something in the startup that is holding up the process.
If the pc still slow loads then you might be having a hardware issue that needs to be addressed.
Report back the Safe Mode-boot up results, please.
—. Z. —
Last night, I “shut down” the PC, wait a few minutes and then power on the PC. I have a bootup password (PW) and a windows PW. I repetitively press the F8 key as soon as I press the power button on the PC, the bootup PWscreen came on; entered the PW. Then again repetitively press F8 key. But it got right into Windows – with no stalling – and I never get the menu screen to select “Safe Mode”.
So I “Shut down” Windows again for the night.
This morning, I power on the PC and repete the above process with one exception – I Press and hold F8 key: First as soon as I press the power button on the PC; then again as soon as I press Enter key after I input the bootup PW. Again, it went straight into Windows – without stalling.
Is the F8 key for the Boot Menu or Startup Menu? If yes, then I have a Post-It note on my PC that they would be f( or Esc key. I’ll try them when I “Shut Down” Windows tonight.
But that doesn’t explain why the PC is booting up normally now? Only time will tell whether “stalling” will recur.
P.S. Just to be sure, by “cold start the PC”, do you mean pressing the Power button to turn on the PC?
Thanks in advance.